You Can’t Demagnetize Vinyl But You Can Demagnetize a Record: The Furutech (alpha) and the Stein Music DE3 Record Demagnetizers

About a decade ago my friend and fellow audio writer Ken Kessler flew over from the U.K. to review the Continuum Caliburn turntable. At the end of a day’s listening it occurred to me that I had on hand not one but two “record demagnetizers"—both in unopened boxes. One was from Furutech, the other from Acoustic Revive.

The claim that you could demagnetize a vinyl record seemed to me so ridiculous I had been putting off the time-wasting trial but with Ken in-house, we could both put to rest this latest bit of audio ridiculousness. He was up for the listen.

I unboxed both and then we had to pick a record.

For some reason I can no longer recall we both agreed upon Marti Jones’s still delightful and very well recorded and produced Used Guitars (A&M SP-5208), issued in 1988 and mastered by Greg Calbi at Sterling Sound. It’s hardly collectible at this time so if you see a copy, give it a spin!

We played the opening track “Tourist Town” and a few more noting the generally excellent recording tinged with a bit of the expected edge. “Okay Ken,” I said lacing it with a dollop of sarcasm, “let’s demagnetize a record”. I even managed air quotes with my hands as I said the word “demagnetize”.

I put the record on the Furutech’s spindle, hit the “on” button and waited for the completion of the automatic de-mag cycle.

The volume was untouched of course and I again lowered the stylus onto the record. Both of us sat there in (audio cliché alert) stunned disbelief.

This play sounded completely different from the previous one: it was smoother, less ‘etchy’ and produced greater depth and instrumental three-dimensionality. It was not at all subtle.

We tried more records, some of which produced equally obvious sonic improvements, others of which did not seem to sound any different, while other sounded only slightly better. But the ones that were greatly improved were dramatically better.

This was not what we were expecting. Of course you can’t demagnetize a piece of vinyl. It’s plastic and incapable of holding a magnetic charge. But as we found out, records, though made of PVC (polyvinyl chloride) can be demagnetized. Furutech’s explanation is that the compounds used to turn black transparent PVC contain ferrous materials that can become magnetized. In addition it’s claimed that label pigments also contain trace ferrous materials.

Furutech provides this documentation:

Regardless of the reason for this phenomenon, it’s difficult to argue against its existence. I’ve repeatedly demonstrated record demagnetization to skeptics and everyone hears it!

One such skeptic was Classic Records’s Mike Hobson who paid a visit and asked for a demo using one of his releases. Hobson was beyond skeptical. He was seriously skeptical.

We used the Masked and Anonymous soundtrack album (Columbia C2K 90618-1) that Classic had issued in 2003 on two 200g LPs. The movie stars Bob Dylan as Jake Fate, a fallen rock star sprung from jail to play a benefit concert. Dylan sings new versions of a few songs and there are covers too, including an absolutely incendiary version of “Gotta Serve Somebody” performed by the great gospel singer Shirley Caesar. We used that track for the “before and after”. Caesar’s voice “after” had far less edge, which left greater depth of vocal textures.

Hobson left so convinced by what he heard that he formulated “Clarity Vinyl”, which contained no black pigment. When he later listened to the same record pressed on black vinyl and Clarity Vinyl, it confirmed for him at least that the pigment was the “bright-edgy” culprit—especially after demagnetizing the black record made it sound similar to the Clarity Vinyl version.

Hobson later sent me two versions of Classic’s excellent reissue of Leo Kottke’s 6 and 12 String Guitar—one on black Quiex SV-P vinyl and one on Clarity Vinyl—and the sonic differences were obvious until I demagnetized the black one (by then I’d purchased the Furutech demagnetizer).

Hobson was so impressed, his audio distribution company EliteAV began distributing the Furutech Demag and still does.

Yes, but where’s the scientific “proof”. I hear you. Enter audio skeptic and ABX blind testing adherent Arny Krueger (you can read and listen to here an “objectivist”/”observationalist” debate between Krueger and Stereophile editor in chief John Atkinson) and his hydrogenaudio.org minions who mocked my and Ken’s observations and basically demanded measured proof!

So I offered some. I said I’d digitize a tune, then demagnetize the record and again digitize it and send them the files for spectrum analyses. They agreed and I did it. And guess what? The spectrum analysis showed an altered high frequency balance that well-comported with what Ken, I and many others have reported after demagnetizing records: the high frequency portion of the spectrum was lower in level after demagnetization.

End of story, correct? Of course not! These people are not interested in either observational analysis leading to scientific discovery or even measurements that disprove their dogmatic religious beliefs masquerading as science.

Even though I’d jumped through their flaming hoops and passed their test, they were back claiming their own challenge was flawed. You, see, the reason the high frequencies were lessened on the second playback was probably due to “high frequency wear” caused by the second play.

Now, in scientific terms, that is called “pure, unadulterated bullshit”, because as I’ve also demonstrated to skeptics, for example, that my original pink label Island copy of Jethro Tull’s Stand Up that’s been repeatedly played since 1969 still has better high frequency extension than any CD version. The claim that one play would so alter a record's high frequency performance was ridiculous.

But anyway, they Hydrogen Audio guys, having lost, were, like good little terrorists, back with new demands: the only way to scientifically demonstrate that record demagnetization produced measurable results (never mind that it’s easily audible!), was to do this: get three copies of the same record pressed contiguously (in other words three in a row pulled from a record press), and then?

And then I forget exactly what I was supposed to do with them because I really didn’t care what they thought then and I still don’t now because I was then 100% certain that had I followed their procedure and had the results again demonstrated a measured spectrum difference, they’d again come up with a reason to dismiss the results. Like “The Amazing Randi”, that is how these phonies operate.

However, I do have friends in high places at record pressing plants, so a number of years ago I managed to get three records pulled in order off a record press.

The record is Pat Metheny’s Orchestrion (Nonesuch 516668-1), a three-sided, double LP set with a blank side four. I've had them here for a few years now but never bothered to use them for any kind of testing. Until now.

So just for the heck of I devised my own test: I demagnetized one using Furutech’s newest Demag device ($3000), another using the Stein DE3 demagnetizer ($3200) and I left the third record untouched by demagnetic hands. And then I played them—first the un-demagnetized record.

Behind Metheny’s electric guitar are a series of “orchestrions”—mechanical, player-piano type acoustical instruments all controlled by Metheny’s guitar-produced instructions. Recorded in a pleasingly reverberant Brooklyn Church, the combination of exotic, distant and somewhat reverberant instruments fronted by a mellow, sonorous electric guitar, produced little in the way of etch or brightness.

If I didn’t hear differences I was fully prepared to write that. The untreated record didn’t sound bright. The various bell-toned percussive accents and cymbal crashes sounded more rich and mellow than edgy.

Switching to the Furutech version produced no tonal surprises, but Metheny’s guitar sounded better focused and organized and the orchestrionic instruments also sounded better-focused, all emanating from a blacker background and more focused in space. Same with the Stein version. I then went back to the non-treated record and it was definitely less well-organized spatially with diminished instrumental focus.

Was this difference worth $3000? No. However, I find that demagnetizing old records produces a far more significant sonic improvement, particularly records that contain vocal performances or a lot of brass. A friend once brought over an old 1950s era Billy Eckstine record. We played it and it really sounded in need of a demag. He said, “What I love about this record is that 1950s-sounding patina around his voice”. I said “The record demagnetizer over there will probably remove that.” He was skeptical but said “go ahead”. I demagnetized the record and the “patina” was gone.

That’s all I’m writing about this in terms of the effect. As for the two products, I’ll first cover the Furutech, because an earlier version of it (the one I own) came first. The new version is said to use a more powerful demagnetization system. It’s far better built than the original or even the first generation replacement with identical cosmetics and functionality. Like the original, the new one sits on three tall spikes. The foolishly placed front mounted IEC AC jack is now smartly located on the unit’s bottom, necessitating an “L” shaped IEC plug, which is supplied attached to a power cord. If Furutech claims the cord makes a difference I will become violent. The former IEC jack location now houses the “on/off” switch.

In place of the original’s push buttons are a pair of LEDs one on either side of the logo. The blue one on the left glows upon power up. A green LED glows upon touching the area to the logo’s right, which begins the demag process. That’s it. To use, place a record on the spindle and push the button.

The Stein Music LP Conditioner

The Stein unit is a basic black square, glossy, and attractively finished, approximately 16.5x16.5 inches, with a single chromed push button located in the square’s right hand corner. A heat sink at the unit’s rear let’s you know Mr. Stein means business. Power is supplied by an outboard “Wall-wart” that connects via a small jack next to the heat sink.

No spindle means you can put more items on the surface to demagnetize such as CDs, cables or your pet Gerbil. I didn’t try CDs, cables or Gerbils for that matter because we’re only interested here in vinyl, but feel free to experiment.

Push the button and it glows blue while a high frequency whistle alerts you that the demag process is underway. When it stops and the blue light extinguishes, it’s done.

A Conclusion Is it worth spending $3000 on a record demagnetizer? Not if your choice is that or a new $3000 cartridge, of course. Could I tell that one of these two products was better at this task than the other? No, I couldn't. This is only for those who can afford to indulge in what some would call a delusion and other would call a useful, easily audible “tweak” that improves the sound of many records.

For instance I have a Japanese Toshiba-EMI pressing of Exile on Main Street that’s bone jarringly bright. I haven’t played it in a long time because the American Artisan-mastered original is so much better. I took it out and played it and, yup, it’s bright with not much bass, but after demagnetizing it, the harshness and brightness diminished, making it more listenable but still not great.

I admit to not using my unit for every record but if I play an old favorite and it has that certain “patina” I do use it and more often than not, the record becomes far more enjoyable. If you can afford one, a record demagnetizer is a useful tool in the analog playback arsenal.

I think these should be sold with a money-back guarantee. I don't think many would be returned.

By the way, the Acoustic-Revive RL-30 ($2495) is still available and distributed domestically by the Lotus Group, which claims the Acoustic-Revive unit was the first such device.

COMMENTS
rshak47's picture

how long does the effect last? Is one treatment good for the life of the record, or does one have to repeat for each play?

Michael Fremer's picture
If you don't play the record it seems to last indefinitely---I mean I've demagged some records and much later played them and then demagged again and heard no differences..
fetuso's picture

How long does the process take? Is it something that could or should be done during the manufacturing process? Thanks.

Michael Fremer's picture
There was talk by some plants to demagnetize the records one by one before shipping but it adds time and time is money...
markotto's picture

at $1000 or so ,it would catch my interest. My question is,is it similar in effect to the Zerostat gun? I use mine every time, and have no doubt about it's ability. Or perhaps a tape head demagnetizer? Don't get one anywhere near your cartridge!! That is a story for another time. OOPS.Well it was time to update ....yeah that's it. Right.

Michael Fremer's picture
Is a de-static device. This is a demagnetizing device though Furutech claims it does both simultaneously.
homersoddishe's picture

and can be used on optical discs and speakers as well.

https://walkeraudio.com/shop/talisman-magnetic-optimizer/

I've never tried one, but Mikey fan Tom Ports swears buy it. Then he swears at Mikey!

AnalogJ's picture

I have used this on records, compact discs, and video discs. I have perceived some effect, but have found it lasts about 15-20 minutes. Fine for one side of an LP, but not long enough for a CD. I have to take the CD out about half-way through and do it again.

I was able to buy a demo for $100. I'm not sure I, personally, would have spent $275.

I have no idea if the Furutech does a better job.

Michael Fremer's picture
Why would you try to demagnetize your speakers?
homersoddishe's picture

Right? :)

Jon's picture

Until a 95 year old geriatric audiophile decides to use it on his hearing aid.

AnalogJ's picture

It definitely took a somewhat harsh edge away, leaving a more apparent rich midrange. I also noticed, however, that it tightened up a loose bass a bit.

AnalogJ's picture

Demagnetizing your laptop, smartphone, or credit cards is not advisable. You and they will definitely sound worse, though you may sound louder as a result.

Jon's picture

So why did clarity vinyl appear to die out once Classic Records ceased to be? If it makes such a difference, I would have thought an enterprising person like Chad would have QRP press all their vinyl without the black pigment, thereby obviating the need for demagnetisation.

Auric G's picture

otherwise, at 3K, this article is more fodder for the digital fanboys.

AnalogJ's picture

Many of the records put out on Clarity vinyl turned out to be very noisy (crackly, etc.). Not sure why.

Paul Boudreau's picture

So only play clear records, got it. Kidding! The next and seriously annoying question is: Do the demagnetization results indicate that only black records contain the offending ferrous materials?

DigMyGroove's picture

I was intrigued by the demgnetization issue when I read your original review of the first Furutech device. Knowing that I wasn't now or ever going to spend $3K on such a thing I thought why not give that old tape head demag device I've had sitting around for 30 years a try. Well it worked it's magic and then some, on both records and CDs.

I go clockwise from the spindle hole out to the edge in and out as though drawing flower petals at least twice then spiral out from the center, approximately 1/8" - 1/4" from the surface. I do this on each side of the record or CD before play, it never fails to yield beneficial results.

When my old demag tool developed power problems I went ahead and ordered a current day version online for $16 (they're now around $21). The new ones have a rubber coating around the tip, much safer in case you have a slip up!

For static removal try a USED Bounce brand fabric softener clothes dryer cloth. Once run through the cycle you have a very soft cloth, free of all the nasty chemicals. Simply fold it to quarter size and it's the perfect size for an album side. Turn on the platter and let the cloth lightly contact the LP for a couple of spins, the static is gone!

Puffer Belly's picture

My high-school electronics teacher taught the class how to demagnetize a TV CRT using a large coil of wire that has AC running through it by rotating the coil around the front of the CRT and slowly moving the coil away from the CRT and turn off power (the CRT has to be off of course). Tape heads can be demagnetized the same way by using the coils in the top of soldering guns with the same process. The Cassette demagnetizing cartridge does the same thing only is much more convenient. My point is a 12 or 10 inch record could be demagnetized the same way with a large coil of wire and the cost would be very cheap. Finding a CRT demagnetizing coil would probably work or something homemade. A CD or 7 inch record could be demagnetized with a soldering gun. The diameter of the coil should not be much larger than the item being demagnetized.

Puffer Belly's picture

The CRT is on, not off, in order to see if the color problems are corrected. For all else being demagnetized, it can be on or off. Here is more information about how to use coils to degauss, http://www.repairfaq.org/samnew/tvfaq/tvdegacrt.htm.

Spin Lps's picture

Go to ebay and buy a used Radio Shack 44-233 magnetic tape eraser. It does the same thing for $3,000 less dollars. And yes, it works.

Consoleman's picture

$23.50 shipped. I'll have to try to re-create Mike's listening test.

clarets's picture

Did it work? How noticeably?

Consoleman's picture

I haven't had a chance to use it on an LP but I will today once we're dug out out the snow. I did use it on an old cassette and it's quite powerful. It grabbed onto the cassette and made the wheels buzz like crazy.

Kirby's picture

This is very interesting and something that i can easily test myself. In my job as a nondestructive technician, we use Electromagnetic Field Meters or also called Gauss meters all the time to test for residual magnetism in ferrous metals after inspection. I will bring one home and test several Lps for trace magnetism. as well we use a large demag unit (here is a used one on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAGNAFLUX-DEMAGNETIZER-NDT-EQUIPMENT-/1519287885... ) that I could use to demag 20 30 Lps at a time. What the hay, will only take a little of my spare time and if it works, bonus for me. PS that Magnaflux unit is 220volt just incase your thinkin one for home....

Goochified1's picture

I have the two Big Star albums that Classic reissued on Clarity 200 gram vinyl. They sound amazing. However, I have no other vinyl issues of those two albums to compare against. I can say, though, that they completely annihilate the Fantasy/Ardent CD from the early '90s. Not like anyone expected the CD to be better!
Agreed, though - if Clarity vinyl is such a bonus, how come no one's using it today?

Garbia's picture

Found my 30 years old TDK Head Eraser. Tested with the Stones EOMS, German EMI Electrola pressing. This LP already sounds great, but after demagnetizing it, I thing it sounds even more analog? Could be pseudo hearing, needs more testing with different LPs. When using TDK Head Eraser, I had headphones on, and when click the demag device, I heard a hum through the cartridge, thus the attenuation process of demagnetizer worked at least.

PeterPani's picture

you should avoid to come near to the internal magnets of your cartridge!

or92log's picture

As far as I remember, the Continuum table uses magnetic suspension (maybe my memmory fails me, but others like Verdier do). Considering the wieght of the 'table the magnetic field must be substantial, at least compared to any magnetism in ferrous coloring in the vinyl. Certainly, magnetism decreases rapidly with distance, but it still strikes me as strange that the magnetic suspention system of the 'table has no significance, while that i the vinyl seems to do have an impact. Sugestions for an explanation (or misunderstanding on my behalf?

BillK's picture

I wonder how well a good old-fashioned TV degaussing coil would do.

Likewise, it would be trivial for a record company to build a degaussing chamber that could treat a production run at a time once the records are actually packaged for sale.

Mike, there's an experiment - I wonder if records could be properly demagnetized while still in the sealed sleeve. Since there's nothing magnetic about it I don't see why not aside from the fact that in the sleeve they may not fit in the Stein device.

http://www.amazon.com/Waldom-Degaussing-Coil-Color-Power/dp/B00011UYJU

Rudy's picture

I have never heard a demagnetized record and thought it was bunk, not really paying attention to the ravings of the audiophile press. However, this Analog Planet post is the only one to ever mention that the pigment in our vinyl records contains a trace of iron. Aha! Now it makes sense. Could I ever hear it? I guess I'll never know.

It would be interesting to tear one of these down to see exactly what is inside. No way there is $3k of parts and materials inside. Sad thing is, I could design a similar degaussing "black box" and sell it for half the price. One of those degaussing coils, a power supply, a control unit to cycle the magnetic field) and an enclosure would take care of it. If I'm not mistaken, televisions often had degaussing coils built in.

Curious: would a bulk tape eraser work? Some refer to them as tape degaussers, but that does not seem right, as the bulk eraser is simply re-orienting the iron particles on tape, not really removing magnetism.

Interesting choice on the Orchestrion recording. I have owned that one since first released and found it to sound nice (what a quiet, flat pressing too), but it also sounded somewhat vague and unfocused. I also believe the subtle lack of dynamics is due to the nature of Pat's orchestrion itself--sound is created by using MIDI triggers for activating solenoids, which only know "on and off." Still, it's a fascinating beast to see in action, and to hear Pat describe it. Catch a video of it on YouTube if you haven't yet. I'm sorry I missed the tour (yes, he toured with the orchestrion, doing a solo show).

Pratyeka's picture

Isn't the magnetic cartridge shielded from external magnetic field? It has to be, or it would pickup lots of noise. Then the minuscule magnetic field from magnetised vinyl (from your measurements: ~50 nanoTesla, earth's magnetic field is between 25,000 - 80,000 nanoTesla) will not make any difference. Also, the magnetic field of the vinyl is probably uniform? If so, how could it influence the quality of the sound?
I would suspect that the difference in sound quality comes from the vinyl being slightly heated by the demagnetiser, thus deforming the tracks. I would propose taking temperature readings with an infrared thermometer during the demagnetisation process. Then if there is heating, record the temp and try to heat another vinyl record with a hair drier and compare the results.

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